Login | Register
My pages Projects Community openCollabNet

Discussions > users [DISABLED] > Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows

subversion
Discussion topic

Back to topic list

Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows

Author "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com>
Full name "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com>
Date 2008-12-11 12:21:16 PST
Message The big problem with Windows is the anti-virus software which checks
each and every file copied onto the system from the network.

There is no alternative to Exchange clients except Microsoft clients.
Our office has IMAP open which means I can use Thunderbird or even
Apple's Mail client. (I too have a Mac at home. It is a six year old
Mac Mini and it runs Eclipse faster than my Windows machine even
though it is running over the corporate VPN). Most corporations
wouldn't allow such access. Plus, this doesn't take care of the
corporate calendars under Exchange.

I use Google's Calendar Sync to sync my Outlook calendar to a Google
Calendar. However, I need to keep Outlook as my default mail
application and I found I have to keep it open at all times.
Otherwise, the Google Sync process will have to open it.

I'm trying to convince the Tech Service people to drop Exchange in
favor of Google Apps. No such luck.

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Bob Archer <Bob dot Archer at amsi dot com> wrote:
> This thread is drifting a bit off topic. But, I guess that happens.
>
> I actually bought a personal Mac to use at home to learn a new way of
> doing things. I never disliked Windows as much as I do now. But, it pays
> the bills. The Mac is so much faster and stable. Svn flies on it.
>
> I'm surprised, is there no Linux mail client that will connect to an
> exchange server? I know that you could run Open Office and deal with the
> MS Office documents.
>
> BOb
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Weintraub [mailto:qazwart at gmail dot com]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:45 PM
>> To: Bob Archer
>> Cc: Mark Phippard; Toby Thain; Hilco Wijbenga;
> users at subversion dot tigris dot org
>> Subject: Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Bob Archer <Bob dot Archer at amsi dot com>
> wrote:
>> > Great idea if you can do it. "Unfortunately" a few of us develop for
>> > ASP.Net using Visual Studio... which last I checked doesn't run on
>> > Linux. Oh well, maybe the VS 2010 will have a native Linux version.
> ;)
>> >
>>
>> I left a Windows shop to get away from the Microsoft development
>> world. I feel for you guys. We were doing .NET development. What a
>> mess.
>>
>> I doubt that my company would abandon Exchange and Microsoft Office
>> because the corporate people all use it. However, one smart guy
>> reformatted his disk, downloaded Fedora and virtual box, and then
>> loaded up Windows as a VM.
>>
>> Now, he has access to the corporate desktop via Windows, yet he spends
>> most of his days in the Linux world. He has no performance issues with
>> his PC.
>>
>> I'm thinking of doing the same, and then encouraging all the other
>> developers to do the same.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Bob Archer <Bob dot Archer at amsi dot com>
> wrote:
>> > Great idea if you can do it. "Unfortunately" a few of us develop for
>> > ASP.Net using Visual Studio... which last I checked doesn't run on
>> > Linux. Oh well, maybe the VS 2010 will have a native Linux version.
> ;)
>> >
>> > Until then, it would be nice to see some performance improvements
> for
>> > the windows stack. When it the new .svn structure going to happen?
> Is
>> > this slated for 1.6 or later?
>> >
>> > Thanks... this has been a great thread.
>> >
>> > BOb
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: David Weintraub [mailto:qazwart at gmail dot com]
>> >> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:56 AM
>> >> To: Mark Phippard
>> >> Cc: Toby Thain; Hilco Wijbenga; users at subversion dot tigris dot org
>> >> Subject: Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows
>> >>
>> >> Thanks! This is the information I was looking for. I'm going to try
>> >> the CollabNet Desktop -- Eclipse Edition. I also know to make sure
>> >> that developers are using JavaHL (especially since we'd have to
>> >> license SVNKit).
>> >>
>> >> We are going to be redoing our infrastructure. If we get rid of
>> >> Microsoft Exchange and go with a more "Open" email and calendar
>> >> provider, we wouldn't need Windows desktops for developers.
> Instead,
>> >> we could have Linux machines which seem much faster with Eclipse.
>> >>
>> >> One of our developers took his desktop machine, installed RedHat,
> and
>> >> then used an open VM to install Windows as a virtual machine. He
> does
>> >> his development in Linux and uses the Windows side for Outlook and
>> >> MS-Word. Maybe that's the way we should be going.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Mark Phippard <markphip at gmail dot com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:01 PM, David Weintraub
> <qazwart at gmail dot com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> I'm attempting to get this running on my machine. This is a dual
>> > core
>> >> >> Pentium with a gigabyte of memory. Checking out in Subversion
> via
>> >> >> Eclipse Ganymede using the most recent copy of Subclipse and
>> > running
>> >> >> SVNkit took almost 13 minutes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> A similar task on Linux via the command line takes about five.
>> >> >> However, checking out from CVS was not much faster. It took
> about
>> > 10
>> >> >> minutes. This is a big project (probably too big).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I've tried a merge, and Eclipse crashed (probably needs more
> memory
>> >> >> for its Java process. I'm attempting to try again.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What I am trying to find out is who uses Windows
>> > XP/Eclipse/Subversion
>> >> >> combination and whether they also have performance issues. Do
> you
>> > use
>> >> >> Subversive or Subclipse? Do you use SVNKit or JavaHL (which
> doesn't
>> >> >> seem available on my installation)?
>> >> >
>> >> > I'd say most users use it on Windows. JavaHL is preferred. This
>> > Wiki
>> >> > page explains how to get it working:
>> >> >
>> >> > http://subclipse.tig​ris.org/wiki/JavaHL
>> >> >
>> >> > Subclipse has to do more than a command line checkout as Eclipse
>> > does
>> >> > some stuff and the svn status of all items is calculated and
> cached.
>> >> > So it is normal for it to be slower than the command line.
>> >> >
>> >> > For merge you should use CollabNet Desktop. This includes/works
>> > with
>> >> Subclipse.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://desktop-eclip​se.open.collab.net/
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> > Mark Phippard
>> >> > http://markphip.blogspot.com/
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> --
>> >> David Weintraub
>> >> qazwart at gmail dot com
>> >>
>> >> --------------------​--------------------​--------------
>> >>
>> >
> http://subversion.ti​gris.org/ds/viewMess​age.do?dsForumId=106​5&dsMessageI
>> > d=
>> >> 982891
>> >>
>> >> To unsubscribe from this discussion, e-mail: [users-
>> >> unsubscribe@subversi​on.tigris.org].
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> David Weintraub
>> qazwart at gmail dot com
>



--
--
David Weintraub
qazwart at gmail dot com

« Previous message in topic | 23 of 54 | Next message in topic »

Messages

Show all messages in topic

Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com> "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com> 2008-12-09 11:26:11 PST
     Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "Andy Levy" <andy dot levy at gmail dot com> "Andy Levy" <andy dot levy at gmail dot com> 2008-12-09 11:41:59 PST
         Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows qu1j0t3 Toby Thain 2008-12-09 15:35:57 PST
         Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com> "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com> 2008-12-09 20:00:41 PST
             Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "Andy Levy" <andy dot levy at gmail dot com> "Andy Levy" <andy dot levy at gmail dot com> 2008-12-09 20:07:59 PST
                 Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "B Smith-Mannschott" <bsmith dot occs at gmail dot com> "B Smith-Mannschott" <bsmith dot occs at gmail dot com> 2008-12-10 08:05:34 PST
                     Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "B Smith-Mannschott" <bsmith dot occs at gmail dot com> "B Smith-Mannschott" <bsmith dot occs at gmail dot com> 2008-12-11 05:05:59 PST
                         Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "B Smith-Mannschott" <bsmith dot occs at gmail dot com> "B Smith-Mannschott" <bsmith dot occs at gmail dot com> 2008-12-11 05:09:37 PST
             Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows qu1j0t3 Toby Thain 2008-12-10 07:47:21 PST
                 Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "Andy Levy" <andy dot levy at gmail dot com> "Andy Levy" <andy dot levy at gmail dot com> 2008-12-10 07:53:17 PST
             Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "Hilco Wijbenga" <hilco dot wijbenga at gmail dot com> "Hilco Wijbenga" <hilco dot wijbenga at gmail dot com> 2008-12-10 09:07:01 PST
                 Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows qu1j0t3 Toby Thain 2008-12-10 14:26:31 PST
                     Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com> "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com> 2008-12-10 15:01:36 PST
                         Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "Mark Phippard" <markphip at gmail dot com> "Mark Phippard" <markphip at gmail dot com> 2008-12-10 15:11:51 PST
                             Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com> "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com> 2008-12-11 07:56:04 PST
                                 Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "Andy Levy" <andy dot levy at gmail dot com> "Andy Levy" <andy dot levy at gmail dot com> 2008-12-11 08:05:27 PST
                                     Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com> "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com> 2008-12-11 11:34:32 PST
                                         Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "Mark Phippard" <markphip at gmail dot com> "Mark Phippard" <markphip at gmail dot com> 2008-12-11 11:46:18 PST
                                 RE: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "Bob Archer" <Bob dot Archer at amsi dot com> "Bob Archer" <Bob dot Archer at amsi dot com> 2008-12-11 08:54:29 PST
                                     Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "Andy Levy" <andy dot levy at gmail dot com> "Andy Levy" <andy dot levy at gmail dot com> 2008-12-11 09:06:38 PST
                                     Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com> "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com> 2008-12-11 11:45:30 PST
                                         RE: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "Bob Archer" <Bob dot Archer at amsi dot com> "Bob Archer" <Bob dot Archer at amsi dot com> 2008-12-11 12:06:52 PST
                                             Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com> "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com> 2008-12-11 12:21:16 PST
                                                 RE: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "Bob Archer" <Bob dot Archer at amsi dot com> "Bob Archer" <Bob dot Archer at amsi dot com> 2008-12-11 12:32:40 PST
                                                     Re: Subversion/Eclipse Performance on Windows "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com> "David Weintraub" <qazwart at gmail dot com> 2008-12-11 12:41:18 PST
Page: of 3 « Previous | Next »
Messages per page: